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Store refuses to decorate birthday cake for Adolf Hitlerhttp://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holland_township... What do you mamas think of this? On one hand, I applaud the store for not wanting to do this. On the other, it is just the boy's name, he had no choice in it. But the parents knew there would be some huge problems he would have to face when they named him this. And I suspect they welcome it, more publicity for their hate mongering. Ugh, gross all around. __________________
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I think private companies
I think private companies have the right to make a decision like this one. Its not an issue of providing health care (life saving or otherwise) for an individual. Its not government funded. Hell yeah, I'm glad they turned that cake order down. It sends a message to the parents that their racist beliefs are not acceptable and we (the people!) don't have to pretend we like it. Or, at the very least, that particular business and many others have a problem with it. Its never too late to legally change a racist name.
Now, Walmart... seriously... what does that say about the bakery department who took the order? Or the manager who approved it? Or the clerk who didn't even question it and filled the order? Nothin' good, that's fo' sure.
I actually read last night
that Wal-Mart is catching some flak (hooray!) and are "reviewing their policies"...
I just read that too
the fact that they have done the last couple cakes though, I am speechless.
Olberman's talking about it
Olberman's talking about it now!
"Step off my big ass."
- Anthromom
Oh Christ.
I'm an extremist, but I didn't name my kid "Vegan Anti-Capitalist Smash the State Queer Gender-fuck Jones". I also didn't name myself that when I chose my own name. Those parents really set their kids up for a hard time. Maybe I have too. My 3yo doesn't know who Elmo or Mickey Mouse are, but he can recognize the voice and face of Barack Obama and can also recognize Led Zeppelin and knows more grains, veggies, and seaweeds than his grandparents.
The thing is, while I have saddled my son with enough weird stuff in his short life to keep his future therapist well-employed, I am not glorifying hate. The parents are fools if they think those names aren't loaded. If they weren't, why wouldn't they have just named their kids regular German (or other) names. And the swastikas? The mom said they don't mean much - then Why are they all over the house? Maybe it is funny for aryan nation-ites to joke amongst themselves about naming their kids that crap, but the joke went too far. Man, I really wanted my kid's middle name to be Blue, but I was afraid it would be used as a verb... Seems small in light of this.
So, the kids were wronged by their names and god only knows what they are being taught. Then the supermarket would not put the name on the cake and gloss it all over and make it feel normal. Go supermarket. Boo WalMart. I want to go to Walmart and get a cake that says "ass sex" because that's the only way I'm getting any for my birthday. What? They don't make vegan cake? Instead of going to the press and whining (thereby minimalising actual discrimination} I will make my own freaky cake in my own freak den where it belongs.
The original store would not do the icing because they found it inappropriate. It is. It is inappropriate to make an Adolf Hitler birthday cake because it is inappropriate to name a kid Adolf Hitler, no matter what you fucked-up beliefs are.
oh pregnant boy
how i truly missed you.
"I'm an extremist, but I didn't name my kid "Vegan Anti-Capitalist Smash the State Queer Gender-fuck Jones".
word to the motherfucking king, you are the king, that is you. king of the hellz-yeah.
but this...this here...
What? They don't make vegan cake? Instead of going to the press and whining (thereby minimalising actual discrimination} I will make my own freaky cake in my own freak den where it belongs.
this makes me truly love you. i am so glad that i am not the only person that feels this way about things like this. you said it so well, i really have nothing to add.
i think these people are horrid, hate-mongering assholes, and i think that the supermarket had a right to tell them to decorate their own despicable name onto the cake. i guess i am really torn on whether or not i "agree" with their "right" to name their kids like that. i know, i know, free speech. but would our culture or society really be worse off if hate speech wasn't protected? really?
At work, you think of the children you have left at home. At home, you think of the work you've left unfinished. Such a struggle is unleashed within yourself. Your heart is rent.
- Golda Meir
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
Friedrich Nietzsche
so glad you are here!
cos I have been horrifed and sick from this whole thing. But this,
"but I didn't name my kid 'Vegan Anti-Capitalist Smash the State Queer Gender-fuck Jones'."
made me laugh! You are so right.
well, I am more liberal than some
I wouldn't consider vegans, patriarchy smashers, anti capitalists or trans people extremists. As I said on my blog recently, people gets to define who they call whacko based on how close they are to their own beliefs.
But, I agree that many non mainstream lifestyles of parents can cause some degree of stress to kids. But, you didn't name your kid Ass Sex Bean. Good restraint!
Sunflower the unflower
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Foodie loves Picky
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Foodie loves Picky
"Go supermarket. Boo
"Go supermarket. Boo WalMart. I want to go to Walmart and get a cake that says "ass sex" because that's the only way I'm getting any for my birthday. What? They don't make vegan cake? Instead of going to the press and whining (thereby minimalising actual discrimination} I will make my own freaky cake in my own freak den where it belongs."
There are no words that can properly express how much I have missed you.
"Step off my big ass."
- Anthromom
"it's just a symbol. it doesn't mean anything."
"um, yes, actually, it does - that's the fucking definition of "symbol", ya twit." is what passed through my mind when i read that bit about swastikas from the wife/mother. then, the next thing that passed through my mind was pity - i know, i know, but it was - 'cuz these are either the most moronic OR the most inconsistent avowed white supremacists i've had the displeasure of being made aware of thus far, and frankly, it must just suck to be them, not to mention their kids. "they say they're not racist, but don't believe the races should mix." again, dictionary anyone? bleh.
"if i pass for other than what i am, do you feel safer?" ~ lani ka'ahumanu
dragon knows dragon
"if i pass for other than what i am, do you feel safer?" ~ lani ka'ahumanu
dragon knows dragon
Symbols
I totally agree. It's sad to me that they would go so far out on a limb as to name their kids extreme names and have extreme symbols all over their house and then back away when they have the full attention of the media. If they are so inconsistent about something they declare loudly, I don't know, it just seems like they lack a solid foundation or something. I feel bad for all of them, especially the kids. I also have to laugh a little and shake my head because this must really be sucking for them and it might have something to do with the universe giving back what we put out there. Sad, yes. Moronic, yes. Hate-mongering, also yes.
it is inevitable
it is inevitable that his name (and his sister's!) is going to cause major problems for him. It was obviously a confrontational move by the parents to name him that and to wants the full name on the cake. I feel sorry for all of the children that they were put in this position. Living with extremists must be difficult.
Sunflower the unflower
Mom's Tinfoil Hat
Foodie loves Picky
Sunflower the unflower
Mom's Tinfoil Hat
Foodie loves Picky
the other kid's name is
the other kid's name is aryan nation!!
so I was trying to find a different news story
online, something that happened in San Francisco and guess what....there's a headline for this same story!
Hooray, my county has been put on the map as the one with the nazi weirdos! Yippee!!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/16/national/a16...
Ah this has been a hot topic for me lately
Seeing as how this family lives in the town I used to live in, and still part of the county I live in now.
While I strongly support freedom of speech, even when it is speech I do not believe in, I think there is nothing wrong with what Shop-Rite did. If the government refused to let them name their child that abhorrent name, I would have a problem with that. But the supermarket is the private sector and as long as they are not denying someone service based on race/sex/orientation/whatever then I don't see them doing anything wrong. (Besides which they offered them a cake with a blank space for them to write it themselves. Not to mention the fact that nobody puts their kids WHOLE name on a cake except ones that are looking to get a rise out of people, ahem.)
Personally, if I were the manager of the supermarket, I'm not sure what I would have done. I think I might have made the cake anyway. But as I said to a friend, I don't think a privately owned company has any responsibility to uphold freedom of speech the way the government does....I gave the example, that if I owned a tee shirt company and Fred Ph#lps wanted me to print up "god hates f@gs" on shirts I want to maintain my right to say "NO FUCKING WAY."
Here, the government would
Here, the government would refuse the name. In any way. Okay, this is Germany, it was here he started to spread hatress, violence and war. So government is much more sensible about such things. And I think they are right. I will pity the boy when he develops to a non-racist guy. But how big a chance is that? With such parents? They will implant hatress in him. They implant their thinking in him. He is the next generation breaded for Ku-Klux-Clan. If he breaks free from that infiltration he can change his name more easily in the States than he could here.
My wish for his parents: He will choose a dark colored boyfriend. And will be happy as man can be. He will become a fighter for freedom, for love and understanding. He will fight hatress, racism and intolerance.
So, universe do your very best to let this wish come true!
...the lover, the dreamer, and me (Jim Henson)
So mote it be, sister! I am
So mote it be, sister! I am hardcore vibing that for little Adolph.
24/MN. Queer, veg, single, AP mama to DD1.
25/MN and WA. Queer, veg, single, AP mama to DD2.5.
Yeah, the whole putting his
Yeah, the whole putting his first and middle name on the cake is just silly. Unless they really go around calling him that, which hell, they just might actually do. And you're totally right, the store has the right to refuse service.
I don't know what I would have done, either. Now, the Ph#lps guy, yeah, I'd tell him to go fuck himself in a heartbeat!
haha you said Fred
haha you said Fred Ph#lps..he lives just down the road from me in Topeka.
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We reserve the right to
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.
A service industry does not have to do something if they don't want to.
Those poor kids, they are all labeled and will rarely be given a chance to be known for their true selves unless they change their names.
I know, I feel so bad for the kids
and if you follow the link ( http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf?/base/news-0/122... ) you can read more that will make you even sadder for the kids.
Oh and...
How ironic that Wal-Mart WOULD print the cake? Ah, wal-mart, that bastion of freedom! Now let's go refuse to sell some books and CDs that we don't like.
Right?
That really struck me too.